Are you stuck in the Wanting?
What if you don’t get what you want, but what you get is better?
It’s a “thing” that people are taught in LOA. It’ll be this, or something better. What most people think that means is something like, “I want the Mercedes, or if it’s better I’ll get the Tesla.”
Better usually looks different than we think it’s going to. Sometimes it means not getting what you thought you wanted and sometimes it means you getting something you wouldn’t even allow yourself to want.
In this interview, Jeanne and I talk about what she wanted five years ago and what she didn’t get.
We only get what is in our core to desire.
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In last week’s interview, Jeanne said at the end, “Jesse (her husband) is going to retire and I know the money will show up to allow that to happen.”
RIGHT AFTER that interview Jeanne walked to the mailbox and in it was a letter worth $185,000! And there it was. The money for her husband to retire.
Oh and to bump her investment portfolio up to a higher status so she got a higher level wealth manager.
Listen to hear all the fun details of this manifestation!
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When you start leveraging the law of attraction, most people want to KNOW it’s going to work. You might have even tried to force yourself to believe at one point or another that it’s going to work.
I wish I had the magic formula for knowing it’s going to work, but there is no quick way to knowing you are going to get what you want. That comes from doing the work, and continually stepping into the version of yourself that has what you want. The knowing comes from many small successes and then one day, you just know.
You know you are going to get exactly what you want even if you don’t know how.
It is magic when it happens. The certainty feels so good. And you skip on as if you never for a second doubted it or tried to force it to happen.
In this interview with Jeanne, you will hear how she knows her husband is going to retire shortly. More importantly she is certain the money is going to show up to allow that opportunity even though she has no idea how.
Listen to hear Jeanne’s certainty and take it as evidence that if you do the work, the “knowing” it’s going to happen is on it’s way to you.
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In mid February of 2020, Jeanne had started to force things a bit. It wasn’t her fault. She had grown, she knew what inspiration was (you’ve heard that in previous interviews). She hugely stepped into her Future Self and was owning her title as the Menopause Guru on deeper and deeper levels. She was “becoming” in a big way.
And then, her old stuff kicked back up. This is common as you’re growing. I see it in many of my clients. They grow and expand and all of a sudden they’re going back to old ways. This is a process of learning and creating new ways. All that is normal and you just have to learn to look out for it, or have a coach that does that for you.
For Jeanne, I saw it. I saw the pushing starting up again. I saw the fear of money creeping in. And so, I gave her the assignment to ONLY do inspired things for 90 days. If it wasn’t 100% inspired, she couldn’t do it.
What Jeanne really needed was space because her business was ready to evolve in a way she probably wasn’t ready to see yet. (You’ll hear about the big shift in a few episodes). When nothing is inspired, you need to put everything down. And she did. She took the coaching and at times, as you will hear in this interview, she felt stuck. Eventually, inspiration started to shine through and she started following it. Much of it had nothing to do with business, although it had everything to do with business.
This space of not pushing allowed Jeanne to receive in new ways. It allowed her to really show up differently for her assignments, which allowed her to grow in new ways.
She started her money manifested log again, and in three months she manifested $24,608.28.
Growing is an evolution, which often requires returning to the basics.
Listen to hear this moment in Jeanne's Journey!
There are many formulas for manifesting out there. If you’ve ever heard ask, believe, receive, I’m curious if that felt good to you. If you’re like almost everyone I’ve met, those steps don’t feel good because you get lost in trying to convince yourself to “believe”.
If you’ve never been able to “believe” right away, you’re not alone. In fact, I’d say you are the norm. People struggle with this part.
Here’s a formula that might work better for you. I’m going to include examples from Jeanne’s story, which you can hear here, so that you can get a little clearer picture. Plus I like real life examples.
Set the intention-the money will show up to replace the fence
Let go-no “hows” allowed
Say no to what doesn’t feel good-she got some bids to replace the fence and said no when they didn’t feel good
Say yes to what does feel good-inspired to do it herself, with her husband
Follow inspiration-applied for 0% card at Home Depot (and got it)
Trust-Bought supplies, not knowing where the money would come from to pay
Receive-the money showed up
Believe-use your successful experience to believe more is possible
Apply this formula as it feels good
In this interview Jeanne talks about SMART goals as she learned them in her corporate days. Her experience is a little different than mine and really shaped how she tried to manifest. Jeanne talks about how this system works for tech goals (her former job), but doesn’t work for life goals, especially if you’re using the law of attraction to create your dreams.
If you get confused about whether you should set goals while manifesting, listen to this interview.
Learning to let go when using the Law of Attraction isn’t always easy.
In fact, in this interview with Jeanne, she shares that in her 35(+) years of using LOA, that she doesn’t think she ever heard the “let go” part. This is a woman who would listen to Abraham for 2 hours at a time while she ran 8 miles. I’m sure they said it, she just didn’t HEAR it.
Do you know how to set an intention and let go?
It’s one of the things when using The Law of Attraction to create your dreams, that has a big impact on your success.
It’s also something that takes practice and is learned by doing it over and over again.
It gets easier every time you do it.
Listen to hear Jeanne talk about how she started to hear you have to “let go” and how she’s practicing it to increase her success
Jeanne used to think she broke the law of attraction and she was the only person it didn't work for. What she realized is that sh was doing it wrong, even though she was trying really hard to do it right. In this interview she describes the two things that kept her from manifesting success.
It’s a puzzle in which you create some of the pieces and that makes more of the pieces appread.
Most people want to start with the big stuff. Let’s say a new convertable.
So they want to find all the pieces of that convertable and put them together.
Only those pieces don’t exist yet.
You have to put together the pieces with the wind blowing and music playing BEFORE the pieces to the convertable appear.
You have to put together the road, which in the case of manifesting looks more like creating space.
All those pieces have to be put togehter before the car pieces appear.
Often that’s true of the money pieces as well, espeically when that money represents something big like a life-changing business.
And once 95% of the puzzle is complete, you know the other 5% has to show up.
In this episode Jeanne Andrus joins Cassie Parks again and they deep dive into the manifesting puzzle and how Jeanne figured out how to put it together.
Inspired action is crucial for using the law of attraction, especially if you are leveraging the Law of Attraction for business.
For me inspired action feels like just doing it. I don’t think about it. I simply find myself doing it or checking something out randomly that leads to clarity or why later.
For Jeanne she describes “inspired action” as “a good idea that she doesn’t have to do. She now identifies ideas that are not inspired as “feeling like they will change everything.”
Join us today as we talk about what inspired action looks and feels like as well as much more manifesting magic.
Jeanne Andrus is The Menopause Guru; only she used to keep that fact mostly secret in her "private" life.
She would share anything and everything women need to know about Menopause on her Menopause Guru page, but not on her personal page.
She kept her life segmented because she was afraid of the judgment of people who didn't get it.
She was afraid that if she posted on her personal page that people would comment nasty things.
Join your host Cassie Parks as she is joined by the Menopause Guru and they discuss being over that fear and how different her life and business are because she is owning who she is!
00:45: Cassie asks Jeanne how her Future Self has been shining through. Jeanne discusses that she has been in the flow and sharing a lot of information on Menopause over the last month.
01:12: Cassie talks about recording this episode just after Menopause Awareness Month finished and asks Jeanne how she did it differently than in the past.
01:35: Jeanne talks about that she showed up, was unapologetically herself when delivering the information she wants to share with the world, and how this shift has made her more confident.
02:57: Jeanne talks about owning who she is and how she is starting to integrate being Jeanne and the Menopause Guru.
03:35: Cassie asks Jeanne if her definition of showing up has changed. Jeanne discusses that she knew what showing up meant but was fighting owning being the Menopause Guru in her personal life.
04:33: Cassie asks Jeanne how it feels to be living one life. Jeanne discusses that it feels more authentic and more connected, and discusses how she has been separating her business and personal life for a long time.
05:46: Cassie talks about Jeanne's Future Self living one life, and Jeanne talks about how her life flows between business and personal, and how she is still working on this.
06:53: Cassie talks about how that isn't going to happen again and asks Jeanne what her biggest fear was that kept her life separated.
07:05: Jeanne discusses that she was afraid of judgment because of what she talks about and was worried about how people would react if she brought her business into her personal interactions.
08:08: Cassie asks Jeanne what her biggest fear was if she showed up as the Menopause Guru in her private life, and Jeanne discusses that she was afraid people would post negative things on her page.
08:26: Cassie talks about how we have the control and the power to get what we want, but we let fear of a specific outcome stop us from doing it.
08:55: Cassie asks what the best part of showing up in all areas of her life as the Menopause Guru is, and Jeanne discusses that it is being proud owning all she has learned about Menopause and how she can help people like no one else can.
10:21: Cassie asks Jeanne why sharing that knowledge now brings so much more pride, and Jeanne discusses having people to share her message with and how she now sees that it is silly to wait for people to realize what she does when she can just tell them.
11:24: Cassie talks about how silly it is not to tell people what she does when 80% of the people who hear her message need to be told that they need her.
12:15: Jeanne gives an example of meeting someone who needed the information that she has.
13:29: Cassie points out how important it is to show up because that is how Jeanne helps clients realize that they need her, and Jeanne talks about how the people who need this information don't have it.
14:11: Cassie asks Jeanne what the Menopause Guru is changing about how Menopause is perceived, and Jeanne talks about knowing that she is going to start working with a younger clientele, so they get the information they need when they need it most.
15:32: Cassie asks Jeanne how she is going to show up to become the persons she wants to be, and Jeanne owns that she will do it brilliantly.
15:50: Jeanne talks about how the Menopause Guru is about guiding people through a major transition and how to stay true to themselves.
16:35: Cassie loves that Jeanne used brilliant and asks Jeanne about the difference between showing up brilliant instead of perfect.
17:16: Jeanne agrees and owns that she is smart, but that now she can share what she knows with others in a way that helps them.
17:53: Cassie talks about Jeanne stepping into her Future Self and becoming the brilliant person she is and asks how committing to showing up for Menopause Awareness Month has changed things.
18:53: Jeanne talks about how it started with the focus on the numbers, why she had to let that go, and how she realized that the goal, and the power, comes from just showing up and the numbers don't matter.
20:13: Cassie talks about how Jeanne was focused on the outcome, and Jeanne talks about how it was easier not to show up than to feel like a failure.
20:42: Jeanne talks about her making her goal to show up and how if she chooses not to show up, then it is on her that she failed.
21:05: Cassie talks about how Jeanne made a massive shift, and Jeanne talks about sticking to the goal of showing up.
21:57: Cassie talks about Jeanne choosing to show up no matter what, and Jeanne talks about how she gets to go skydiving because she showed up.
22:27: Cassie talks about the importance of showing up, how it took practice for Jeanne to get to this point, and that it couldn't happen until she was ready to step into being that person.
23:34: Cassie asks Jeanne how long it took to write an email when they first started working on writing them, and Jeanne owns that she wrote one a week and needed a lot of help from Cassie.
24:26: Cassie asks Jeanne about how it was different to talk to her clients last month versus in the past, and Jeanne talks about wanting to use August to get ahead, went on vacation, and ended up using what she has learned from her Future Self to write throughout September.
27:09: Cassie asks Jeanne why this was the month to commit, and Jeanne talks about being ready and wanting her business to start booming.
28:22: Cassie talks about Jeanne wanting it but not wanting to commit fully, and Jeanne discusses putting in 60 hours of work and getting 10 hours of results.
29:09: Cassie asks Jeanne how she started to see that she was putting in so much work and not getting anything done, and Jeanne discusses her husband working 12 hours a day and feeling that she should be working that whole time.
30:10: Jeanne owns that she had the right to complain if it wasn't working because she was working so hard.
30:56: Cassie asks Jeanne about working less, and Jeanne talks about being aware of when she isn't productive and knows that when she is working on the right things, she doesn't need to work 60 hours to be successful.
32:03: Cassie talks about Jeanne focusing on creating content that lands instead of just creating mass amounts of content.
32:36: Jeanne discusses how working with Cassie has helped her crate content that she can reuse, and how she knows that putting 10 to 12 hours a week into marketing now will allow her more time in the future.
33:42: Cassie talks about Jeanne wanting this business because she is creating the life she wants and that Jeanne started the month taking 3 hours to write 1 post, and now can write 3 posts in 1 hour.
34:30: Jeanne talks about posting 800 word Facebook posts and writing to the women who don't have anyone to get this information from and isn't interested in knowing all of the science behind it.
36:24: Cassie asks Jeanne what the title of her former business story is, and Jeanne says, "I'm going to tell you what you need to know."
36:48: Cassie asks Jeanne what some of the chapters to that story are, Jeanne gives a list, and Cassie talks about how her old story was very harsh and in your face.
37:36: Cassie asks Jeanne what the title of her current business story is, and Jeanne owns "You aren't going crazy; your hormones are."
32:48: Cassie asks what that means as a story title, and Jeanne talks about that women feel like they are reacting wrong to what is happening when they go through Menopause, and Jeanne wants to make it easy for women to live the life they want to.
39:18: Cassie tells Jeanne she thinks the title of her business story is "I speak to my clients so they can hear me," and Cassie talks about how differently Jeanne interacts with her clients compared to 2 years ago.
40:08: Cassie talks about how "you aren't going crazy, your hormones are" was inspired and how it was all part of the process and on the path to what Jeanne wanted.
41:24: Cassie asks Jeanne what she is excited about, and Jeanne talks about her husband's schedule and wanting him to be able to slow down and do what he wants to do, growing her business, and learning just to show up.
43:01: Cassie asks Jeanne how it feels for the business to be easier and Jeanne admits that she just needs to show up and let the Universe take care of the rest.
43:30: Jeanne talks about putting out more emails and being happy that the wrong people are getting off of her list and the right people are hearing her message.
44:29: Cassie asks Jeanne what they will be talking about a year from now after next Menopause Awareness Month and Jeanne talks about being on major morning shows and the evidence she has that that will happen.
45:36: Cassie asks Jeanne for final thoughts on people fighting their business, and Jeanne talks about getting comfortable with the work you are putting in your business and not letting other people influence what you do.
46:32: Cassie asks Jeanne about doing the work you need to be doing versus focusing on the wrong things, and Jeanne discusses not knowing what her people really wanted until she had a coach to help her see it.
47:40: Cassie clarifies that Jeanne needed someone who could be her client so she could see what her clients need to hear.
Have you ever wanted to get on TV to share your amazing business? So did Jeanne.
Join your host Cassie Parks as she is again joined by Jeanne Andres, the Menopause Guru. They discuss how Jeanne landed 4 TV segments by setting the intention, doing nothing, stepping into her Future Self, tracking the evidence, allowing inspiration to show up, and following her inspiration!
00:48: Cassie asks Jeanne how her Future Self has been showing up.
00:55: Jeanne talks about recording this in Menopause Awareness Month and how her Future Self shows up to help her write her Facebook content.
01:45: Cassie asks Jeanne what is the most awesome thing about her Future Self showing up.
01:50: Jeanne talks about that it is awesome knowing that what she is writing is going out to help the people who need her and how confident she is in what she is doing.
02:32: Cassie talks about the past 2 interviews and the growth Jeanne has been experiencing and asks Jeanne how she feels differently about knowing there are people who need to hear her message.
03:11: Jeanne discusses how she has realized that by putting the message out there, it will reach the people she wants to do business with.
03:56: Cassie talks about how that is Jeanne's Future Self and how education is what being the Menopause Guru is all about.
04:16: Cassie asks Jeanne what is different because she used to have a lot of resistance to sharing her message.
04:26: Jeanne talks about knowing what she wants to write and allowing her Future Self to help her say what she needs to.
05:22: Jeanne talks about how she and Cassie have worked together to write and how connecting with her Future Self allows Jeanne to write and then decide if what she has written is exactly what her clients need to hear.
06:08: Jeanne talks about how 70 to 80% of her writing is coming from her Future Self and how that has shifted from trying to force her writing.
06:31: Cassie talks about how Jeanne is using her Future Self to step into owning being the expert.
06:59: Jeanne talks about being an expert and continually learning to help her clients.
07:58: Cassie talks about how by connecting to Jeanne's Future Self she is tapping into the person who has been doing that for years.
08:09: Jeanne talks about how fun it is to be stepping into the person she is becoming.
08:24: Jeanne talks about how about a year ago she was having issues writing and how she worked with Cassie to get clearer about who she is writing for and what they need to hear.
09:34: Cassie talks about how Jeanne can create so much content because she has learned how to speak to her Future Clients.
10:41: Jeanne talks about learning to take out any information that her clients aren't ready to hear.
11:15: Cassie asks Jeanne about the 4 tv segments she recorded.
11:40: Jeanne talks about a local tv station and a lifestyle program that is on in the morning.
12:07: Cassie stops Jeanne and wants to take her back to the beginning.
12:15: Jeanne wants to go back even further and talks about being invited by a friend to be on the show and how she reached out to the producer at that time.
13:12: Jeanne talks about again reaching out to the producer to ask her if she knew September is Menopause Awareness Month and gave her a list of topics they could use on the show.
13:53: Jeanne talks about the show reaching out to her and wanting to do 6 segments 4 of which they wanted Jeanne for.
14:14: Cassie and Jeanne agree that is awesome.
14:22: Cassie wants to break down what happened from an LOA perspective.
14:37: Cassie talks about how enjoying doing pottery with her friend was essential to stepping into Jeanne's Future Self.
14:54: Jeanne talks about loving doing pottery.
14:58: Cassie talks about Jeanne starting to do pottery 2 years ago, that her Future Self was leading her to where she wanted to go, and how her Future Self has helped her have all of the pieces in place to have the opportunities she wants.
16:42: Cassie talks about how Jeanne had to learn to speak to clients before she could be on tv, and how once she was ready, the inspiration came to reach out to the tv station.
17:20: Jeanne talks about how she reached out and didn't hear back, questioned if she should follow up, let it go, and then heard back that they wanted her for 4 segments.
17:45: Cassie talks about Jeanne staying in her own lane, doing what she needed to do, and being ready to support all of the people who will see her tv segments.
18:17: Cassie talks about there being a moment when Jeanne could have derailed from her Future Self.
19:00: Jeanne talks about how she wanted to do contests for Menopause Awareness Month to gain new followers.
19:26: Cassie talks about how contests aren't the Menopause Guru and how Cassie was prepared to show Jeanne that contests were not part of her Future Self, but then Jeanne let it go and agreed it wasn't what she needed to be doing.
20:50: Cassie talks about how they then went back into working on Jeanne's emails and then the inspiration to do Menopause Awareness Month came and being on tv didn’t matter.
21:17: Cassie and Jeanne discuss how this is stepping fully into her Future Self.
21:25: Cassie talks about how Jeanne ended up on tv because of the person she was being and how it seemed easier to get on tv than to show up on Facebook.
21:54: Jeanne talks about writing the scripts of questions for the tv show and it being easier than writing for Facebook.
22:16: Cassie talks about it feeling easier to show up on tv than on Facebook.
22:30: Jeanne talks about feeling like you can be an instant star when you get on tv, admits that she doesn't care about being an instant star, that she is going to do a seminar the day after the last segment airs, and how it is all a gift to get her message out.
24:06: Cassie talks about how Jeanne's words come from doing the work to connect with her Future Self and her Future Clients.
24:28: Cassie talks about how being on tv isn't the end all be all and that it is just part of what Jeanne does.
24:42: Cassie talks about how the Menopause Guru is who Jeanne is.
24:52: Cassie asks Jeanne what would have been different if she would have ended up on tv a year ago.
25:25: Jeanne talks about how she doesn't care what the outcome she gets from being on tv is; she knows that she is in alignment with what she does and that her goal is to educate, and that is what she is doing.
27:06: Cassie loves seeing Jeanne own what she does.
27:16: Cassie talks about how Jeanne building the business this way has set her up to support fast, significant growth in her business.
27:40: Jeanne talks about how the clients coming into her world are a reflection of the work Jeanne is doing to change the world.
27:59: Cassie asks Jeanne where people can connect with her.
28:14: Jeanne gives her website http://menopause.coach/
Have you ever had a growth temper tantrum?
My definition of a growth temper tantrum is when you just grew or about to take a big step in your growth journey, so you throw a temper tantrum, much like a toddler.
Maybe you don't throw yourself on the ground and kick and scream, but you do the adult version.
You dig your heels in, maybe cross your arms, and basically say, "I'm not doing that!" "That" refers to the next step, whatever that is.
Sometimes the tantrum comes when you're working with a coach, and you suggest something they know is a distraction, so they advise against it. You don't like that answer, so you throw a growth tantrum.
Join your host Cassie Parks as Jeanne Andrus again joins her, and they discuss Jeanne's growth temper tantrum and how it was brought on by fear.
They dive deep into how, this time, Jeanne could throw her tantrum and then keep moving and how she didn't need help or support to get through it.
00:41: Cassie asks Jeanne how her Future Self has been showing up.
00:44: Jeanne talks about her Future Self showing up to go on a trip to Florida to meet a sister she hasn't met in person and loves living the life that allows her to travel and do what she wants when she wants.
01:26: Cassie talks about how that answer covers what is awesome as well.
01:33: Cassie talks about how the last interview was a live coaching session.
02:00: Cassie asks Jeanne what has happened in the month since that last interview/coaching session.
02:12: Jeanne talks about how she felt unsure going into that coaching session and that by the end of it, she was clear that she is on the right path and that she is here to help women go through their Menopause Journey.
03:33: Jeanne talks about how important working with Cassie is because she helps her both with the business and her belief in herself.
04:00: Jeanne talks about September being Menopause awareness month and how it is so important to get the word out there and help people find the information they need.
04:55: Jeanne talks about how she did some things locally to get her name out, how she has a whole month planed to get her information out, and how she wants to reach people.
05:34: Cassie highlights that Jeanne will have to continue to find that clarity and how you have to choose to move forward and continue to step into your Future Self.
06:10: Jeanne talks about how she and Cassie talked about how she grows and then she gets scared without realizing it, and how she did one of Cassie's workshops and then scared herself.
07:03: Cassie gives the timeline of Jeanne's interview and how Cassie was ready to do an interview, and that it was awesome that Jeanne came to do the work.
07:52: Jeanne talks about how she knew everything was working and needed to trust and do the work instead of avoiding fear.
08:18: Jeanne talks about having an idea and bringing it to a call, and Cassie telling her just to do what they had been talking about doing and stop avoiding the fear.
08:48: Jeanne talks about being pissed that Cassie would say that but realized that Cassie is right and she just needed to move forward.
09:13: Jeanne talks about preparing for her and Cassie's meeting on Thursday just to move forward.
09:25: Cassie talks about how awesome it is that Jeanne can solve her own temper tantrums.
09:46: Jeanne talks about getting mad that her business isn't further along and then realizing that she is learning the skills she needs to build the business she wants.
09:46: Jeanne talks about getting mad that everything isn't perfect and realizing that she is learning the skills she needs to grow her business.
10:28: Cassie talks about having tantrums herself and that it is awesome that Jeanne felt through that.
11:18: Jeanne talks about moving through it, focusing on their Thursday meeting, and it was different than in the past.
12:06: Cassie talks about this being 1 of Cassie's favorite coaching moments because of how much Jeanne grew so quickly.
12:32: Jeanne talks about being so productive and being ready to move forward.
13:05: Cassie asks Jeanne how it feels to be that person.
13:11: Jeanne talks about feeling better, and knowing there was so much to do yet wasn't feeling confident about it.
13:43: Jeanne talks about writing from where we become and how we don't hear it before we become.
14:00: Jeanne talks about learning to speak to her clients and how she has gotten better at it as she gets clearer about what she is doing.
15:24: Cassie talks about how things start to change when you work toward long-term growth and that that is what Jeanne is actually doing with her clients.
16:43: Cassie talks about it being different to work with clients long term and the space that it takes.
17:00: Cassie talks about people who can write quick copy versus connecting to the people who are going on the journey with you.
17:38: Jeanne talks about people who write good copy, reach 1,000 people, and hold 5 of them.
18:06: Jeanne talks about wanting to help people long term because women can lose half their lives due to Menopause.
18:53: Jeanne talks about the number of people she reaches and the importance of what she does.
19:16: Cassie and Jeanne talk about how Menopause can affect everything.
19:58: Jeanne talks about when she first wrote about her story and how it felt like a country song.
20:38: Jeanne talks about getting women to the place to rebuild their lives and helping them do that.
20:51: Cassie talks about Jeanne's goal of helping women keep their lives and make them even better.
21:25: Cassie talks about Jeanne helping women to build the second part of their lives.
21:30: Cassie talks about helping people find their clients and that the big problem they have is wanting to work with people long term and wanting to start at the end of their journey.
22:16: Jeanne talks about working as a coach and being around other coaches and how everyone wants to start at the end.
22:40: Jeanne talks about being in a group to create challenges and how that isn't what her clients want.
22:55: Cassie talks about Jeanne's clients not wanting to be challenged because their life is already full of challenges.
23:09: Jeanne talks about seeing coaches use 5-day challenges and how coaches sell challenges that aren't what their clients need.
24:15: Cassie loves hearing what Jeanne is saying because Jeanne didn't always believe it.
24:45: Jeanne talks about how she can help women because she sees the journey they are on.
25:06: Cassie talks about the journey, how Jeanne gets what she wants, and how the end of the journey is adventure and bravery.
25:45: Jeanne talks about reading posts from other entrepreneurs who started their businesses because they wanted to stay home with the kids, and then not loving their business in their 40's because of the changes Menopause brings on.
26:21: Jeanne talks about articles coming out about women going through a mid-life crisis.
26:50: Jeanne talks about how people don't realize it's their body that wants them to move to the next phase of their life.
27:06: Cassie asks Jeanne what the headline for a Facebook post would be for an entrepreneur in their 40's that no longer loves her business.
27:35: Jeanne talks about that it would be something like have you lost the excitement and enthusiasm for your business.
27:53: Cassie asks Jeanne how they would take her through the process.
28:02: Jeanne talks about starting to be home with kids and questioning things in their 40's because of Menopause.
28:23: Jeanne talks about writing and working on it with Cassie and how what we want changes as we go through Menopause.
28:53: Jeanne talks about it being a hormone change and that these changes change women's lives.
30:00: Cassie asks Jeanne what opt-in they would want.
30:12: Jeanne talks about an opt-in around 5 ways to reconnect with the business you love.
30:24: Cassie asks Jeanne why she would sign up for that opt-in.
30:29: Jeanne talks about her wanting to love her business and that she feels she did something wrong, and that is why she doesn't want her business.
30:46: Cassie asks Jeanne what she would tell her in the emails.
30:49: Jeanne talks about it being normal to shift focus, and that it is normal to go to the past and bring things they loved back into their lives.
31:55: Cassie talks about eventually offering a chance to work with Jeanne to create the life they want.
32:02: Jeanne talks about that she may not have a lot of symptoms because she is taking care of herself, but that some aren't and will likely have more symptoms.
33:12: Jeanne talks about going right to an offer of coaching or needing to hybrid something new.
33:33: Cassie talks about loving seeing Jeanne do that on the spot and having the confidence to say it out loud because of who Jeanne has become.
34:20: Cassie talks about seeing new clients as you become and grow and how you can mix and match your content to help more people.
35:33: Jeanne talks about some people needing to tweak diet and exercise and how others don't.
35:52: Cassie loves that Jeanne outlined that.
36:37: Jeanne wants the link to this podcast because she will be talking to that client in September.
37:12: Cassie asks Jeanne how it feels to be clear she isn't a business coach.
37:30: Jeanne admits that she will point stuff out when she sees it, but doesn't want to help people build a business and instead wants to help women going through Menopause.
37:39: Cassie asks Jeanne what the most significant shift she has had in the last 30 days is.
38:09: Jeanne talks about how she did some fantastic scripting after the workshop and realized that she can have and do what she wants.
39:18: Jeanne talks about Cassie working with her on what her most awesome life would be like and realizing that it revolved around her family and not her work.
39:50: Cassie talks about how that is what Jeanne wanted, but she thought she got it through her business.
40:00: Cassie talks about the difference in energy between working for family versus spending time with family and having a business that supports that life.
40:20: Cassie wraps up the interview and asks if Jeanne wants to share anything else.
40:41: Jeanne wants to thank Cassie for what she does.
41:16: Cassie thanks Jeanne for showing up and doing the work.
41:31: Cassie asks Jeanne how people can connect with her.
41:33: Jeanne shares her website http://menopause.coach/
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00:30: Cassie asks Jeanne to tell her something awesome even though she is in a rough patch.
00:40: Jeanne talks about celebrating her 8th wedding anniversary, the perfect present her husband gave her, and her husband forgetting what day their anniversary was on.
01:51: Cassie asks Jeanne what is going on.
01:55: Jeanne talks about how she doesn't have a large client base, feels like she is losing traction, isn't getting where she wants to go and is wasting time with her writing.
03:05: Cassie talks about how it is interesting that a week ago, Jeanne had a list of topics to write about and all of these other things Jeanne was looking forward to doing and asks what has changed in the last week.
03:39: Jeanne talks about how she spoke with a couple of people, thought that one of them would be a perfect fit to work with her, that she chose not to work with Jeanne, and that she keeps hearing no and is feeling stuck.
05:06: Cassie asks if she feels stuck because someone said no.
05:10: Jeanne says yes, probably.
05:14: Cassie talks about how this is typical when we hear no and asks if someone saying no means Jeanne hasn't been moving forward.
05:32: Jeanne admits that it doesn't but that it feels that way.
05:38: Cassie agrees that it can feel that way.
05:45: Jeanne talks about how that is how she feels and that she got on the group call and was feeling stuck.
06:16: Cassie asks Jeanne to evaluate what is going on and asks if it is true that she isn't moving anywhere.
06:24: Jeanne admits that it's not true.
06:26: Cassie asks Jeanne why it's not true.
06:27: Jeanne admits that she got a lot done last week but also came up against some roadblocks.
07:08: Jeanne talks about looking for signs and meaning in everything and how that can be discouraging.
08:06: Cassie stops Jeanne and comes back to the question of is it true that Jeanne isn't moving forward.
08:25: Jeanne talks about all of the things she did in the past few weeks.
09:05: Cassie asks Jeanne if she is not moving forward.
09:09: Jeanne admits that she is moving forward.
09:15: Jeanne admits that her brain has been stuck on one thing.
09:22: Cassie talks about how Jeanne is moving forward and how it can feel like you aren't when someone chooses not to work with you.
09:38: Cassie talks about how Jeanne is still doing what she needs to do and is moving forward.
09:48: Cassie talks about how as business owners, it can feel like you aren't moving forward when clients aren't coming in, but that you are still moving forward as long as you are putting in the effort.
10:14: Cassie asks Jeanne if she is ready to own that she is moving forward.
10:26: Jeanne asks Cassie to repeat the question.
10:29: Cassie asks if Jeanne's brain is ready to say I'm moving forward instead of I'm not moving forward.
10:35: Jeanne admits that she wants it to be ready.
10:46: Cassie states that Jeanne isn't there yet and wants to talk about signs.
10:50: Cassie talks about how she would interpret someone not wanting to work with her as a good thing and how Jeanne perceived it as she is doing something wrong.
11:19: Jeanne admits that that's how she feels and that it leads her to believe she shouldn't be doing it.
11:26: Cassie asks Jeanne how someone else quitting makes it so Jeanne shouldn't be doing what she is meant to do.
11:37: Jeanne admits she doesn't know, but that is where her brain went.
11:49: Cassie asks Jeanne if she thinks it's easier to look for the reasons that she shouldn't be doing it.
11:56: Jeanne agrees.
11:58: Cassie asks Jeanne why.
11:59: Jeanne admits that she doesn't have to take the blame if it doesn't work.
12:16: Cassie asks Jeanne how she wants to feel about being the Menopause Guru.
12:24: Jeanne admits that that has been an interesting question the past few days, that she is questioning what she is meant to do, and that it is weird because being the Menopause Guru has been part of her identity for over 5 years.
13:34: Cassie asks Jeanne what she has been questioning.
13:36: Jeanne admits she was questioning everything about her business and discusses what she has been questioning.
14:13: Cassie asks Jeanne if the Menopause Guru is part of who she wants to be.
14:16: Jeanne admits that it has been for a really long time.
14:25: Jeanne tells a story about how a couple of years ago she wanted to open a retreat center, how Cassie asked her if that is what she wanted, and how now she is questioning if the Menopause Guru is who she is supposed to be.
15:15: Cassie asks Jeanne if it feels similar to the retreat center.
15:22: Jeanne admits that it doesn't because there was a relief when she let that idea go, that she doesn't like how this is making her feel, and feels like it is fear that is making her feel this way.
15:46: Cassie asks Jeanne what it would feel like if she gave it up.
15:50: Jeanne admits that she would feel lost, grief, and not knowing what to do next.
16:12: Cassie asks if Jeanne would feel relief.
16:18: Jeanne admits she wouldn't and that she would feel like she gave up too soon.
16:27: Cassie talks about how Jeanne knows the difference between the retreat center and being the Menopause Guru.
16:42: Cassie asks Jeanne if she wants to be her.
16:46: Jeanne admits she does.
16:50: Cassie asks Jeanne how come.
16:55: Jeanne admits that she knows that there are so many people who need what Jeanne is sharing and that what she is doing is important.
17:33: Cassie asks if Jeanne wants to be her.
17:42: Jeanne admits that she wants to be the Menopause Guru.
17:48: Cassie asks Jeanne how it feels to say that.
17:50: Jeanne admits it feels scary.
17:56: Cassie talks about how this is normal for Jeanne, how she is getting ready to send information to a TV station that could make her known worldwide, and how when Jeanne makes big moves forward, fear hits her.
18:50: Jeanne admits that it is a pattern for her.
18:51: Cassie talks about how the conversation started with Jeanne feeling stuck and how now can say that because Jeanne is feeling fear, she knows she is moving forward.
19:07: Jeanne agrees and discusses that she wants to run backward because of fear.
19:12: Cassie talks about how it is normal to want to stay in what is comfortable and that it is easy to see the signs that things aren’t moving forward because we are looking for reasons not to move forward.
19:37: Jeanne admits that is true.
19:42: Cassie asks Jeanne what she is going to do instead.
19:47: Jeanne admits she needs to double down.
19:50: Cassie asks Jeanne to elaborate on that.
19:51: Jeanne talks about getting what she needs to do to move forward and be the Menopause Guru.
20:35: Cassie talks about how the Menopause Guru enjoys her life, teaches women to live and enjoy their life, and asks Jeanne if she is the Menopause Guru on the weekends.
21:00: Jeanne admits that she is.
21:05: Cassie asks Jeanne what it means to be the Menopause Guru and what she will do to be her.
21:15: Jeanne talks about how the Menopause Guru is all about teaching and how she needs to be ready to help the people she wants to help.
22:03: Cassie asks what voice Jeanne needs to listen to.
22:05: Jeanne admits she needs to listen to the voice of what she needs.
22:09: Cassie asks if that is the voice of the Menopause Guru or her clients.
22:13: Jeanne admits that she needs to listen to both, but mainly she needs to listen to her clients' voices.
22:53: Jeanne talks about how she hears them when she listens, but it feels like it is taking a long time to get it right.
23:17: Cassie tells Jeanne she is super smart.
23:21: Jeanne admits that being smart doesn't mean she always knows how to talk to her future clients.
23:30: Cassie asks Jeanne how she is feeling now.
23:36: Jeanne admits that she feels better and knows that this is where she wants to be.
24:05: Cassie asks Jeanne if she wants to think about going out and getting a job.
24:10: Jeanne admits that she doesn't.
24:17: Jeanne talks about how she has noticed that she doesn't want to go back into IT and that she gets so much out of being the Menopause Guru.
25:27: Cassie thinks it's good to recognize the fear, look around to see if you want to go down the path and choose to do it even if there is fear.
25:43: Jeanne talks about how in the past, at this time of year, she would have been doing some extreme physical things and that, interestingly, she knows she can do things when she’s scared.
26:31: Cassie asks Jeanne about the difference between the fear of being an entrepreneur and the fear of going down a mountain that may be out of her comfort zone.
26:46: Jeanne talks about that when it comes to something skill-based if you fail, it is because you aren't skilled enough, but if she fails as the Menopause Guru, it is because she isn't good enough.
27:37: Cassie admits it makes sense but that it is a skill to be the Menopause Guru.
27:46: Jeanne admits that hearing that made her realize she is just working on skills, and if she fails to write a good email, it isn't a reflection of her ability to be the Menopause Guru.
28:14: Cassie talks about how it is different to talk to a client to get them in the door versus serving them as a client.
28:26: Cassie asks Jeanne if she is ready to own that she is moving forward.
28:31: Jeanne owns that she is moving forward.
28:34: Cassie asks Jeanne how that feels.
28:35: Jeanne owns that it feels scary but good.
28:41: Cassie asks Jeanne how else she would like to be supported today.
28:45: Jeanne says she has some emails for Cassie to read.
28:48: Cassie talks about how they coach for about 20 minutes and then go do the work in a coaching session.
29:03: Cassie asks if Jeanne has anything else she would like to share.
29:06: Jeanne talks about how this was a big step for her.
29:15: Cassie wants to talk about the retreat center and how that was how Jeanne thought she would find the people she wanted to help.
29:46: Jeanne admits that it was also a way to be in New Hampshire so she could be with her family