Have you ever wondered what it is like to work with Cassie Parks? Join your host Cassie Parks as she is again joined by Jeanne Andrus for a live coaching session!!!
00:30: Cassie asks Jeanne to tell her something awesome even though she is in a rough patch.
00:40: Jeanne talks about celebrating her 8th wedding anniversary, the perfect present her husband gave her, and her husband forgetting what day their anniversary was on.
01:51: Cassie asks Jeanne what is going on.
01:55: Jeanne talks about how she doesn't have a large client base, feels like she is losing traction, isn't getting where she wants to go and is wasting time with her writing.
03:05: Cassie talks about how it is interesting that a week ago, Jeanne had a list of topics to write about and all of these other things Jeanne was looking forward to doing and asks what has changed in the last week.
03:39: Jeanne talks about how she spoke with a couple of people, thought that one of them would be a perfect fit to work with her, that she chose not to work with Jeanne, and that she keeps hearing no and is feeling stuck.
05:06: Cassie asks if she feels stuck because someone said no.
05:10: Jeanne says yes, probably.
05:14: Cassie talks about how this is typical when we hear no and asks if someone saying no means Jeanne hasn't been moving forward.
05:32: Jeanne admits that it doesn't but that it feels that way.
05:38: Cassie agrees that it can feel that way.
05:45: Jeanne talks about how that is how she feels and that she got on the group call and was feeling stuck.
06:16: Cassie asks Jeanne to evaluate what is going on and asks if it is true that she isn't moving anywhere.
06:24: Jeanne admits that it's not true.
06:26: Cassie asks Jeanne why it's not true.
06:27: Jeanne admits that she got a lot done last week but also came up against some roadblocks.
07:08: Jeanne talks about looking for signs and meaning in everything and how that can be discouraging.
08:06: Cassie stops Jeanne and comes back to the question of is it true that Jeanne isn't moving forward.
08:25: Jeanne talks about all of the things she did in the past few weeks.
09:05: Cassie asks Jeanne if she is not moving forward.
09:09: Jeanne admits that she is moving forward.
09:15: Jeanne admits that her brain has been stuck on one thing.
09:22: Cassie talks about how Jeanne is moving forward and how it can feel like you aren't when someone chooses not to work with you.
09:38: Cassie talks about how Jeanne is still doing what she needs to do and is moving forward.
09:48: Cassie talks about how as business owners, it can feel like you aren't moving forward when clients aren't coming in, but that you are still moving forward as long as you are putting in the effort.
10:14: Cassie asks Jeanne if she is ready to own that she is moving forward.
10:26: Jeanne asks Cassie to repeat the question.
10:29: Cassie asks if Jeanne's brain is ready to say I'm moving forward instead of I'm not moving forward.
10:35: Jeanne admits that she wants it to be ready.
10:46: Cassie states that Jeanne isn't there yet and wants to talk about signs.
10:50: Cassie talks about how she would interpret someone not wanting to work with her as a good thing and how Jeanne perceived it as she is doing something wrong.
11:19: Jeanne admits that that's how she feels and that it leads her to believe she shouldn't be doing it.
11:26: Cassie asks Jeanne how someone else quitting makes it so Jeanne shouldn't be doing what she is meant to do.
11:37: Jeanne admits she doesn't know, but that is where her brain went.
11:49: Cassie asks Jeanne if she thinks it's easier to look for the reasons that she shouldn't be doing it.
11:56: Jeanne agrees.
11:58: Cassie asks Jeanne why.
11:59: Jeanne admits that she doesn't have to take the blame if it doesn't work.
12:16: Cassie asks Jeanne how she wants to feel about being the Menopause Guru.
12:24: Jeanne admits that that has been an interesting question the past few days, that she is questioning what she is meant to do, and that it is weird because being the Menopause Guru has been part of her identity for over 5 years.
13:34: Cassie asks Jeanne what she has been questioning.
13:36: Jeanne admits she was questioning everything about her business and discusses what she has been questioning.
14:13: Cassie asks Jeanne if the Menopause Guru is part of who she wants to be.
14:16: Jeanne admits that it has been for a really long time.
14:25: Jeanne tells a story about how a couple of years ago she wanted to open a retreat center, how Cassie asked her if that is what she wanted, and how now she is questioning if the Menopause Guru is who she is supposed to be.
15:15: Cassie asks Jeanne if it feels similar to the retreat center.
15:22: Jeanne admits that it doesn't because there was a relief when she let that idea go, that she doesn't like how this is making her feel, and feels like it is fear that is making her feel this way.
15:46: Cassie asks Jeanne what it would feel like if she gave it up.
15:50: Jeanne admits that she would feel lost, grief, and not knowing what to do next.
16:12: Cassie asks if Jeanne would feel relief.
16:18: Jeanne admits she wouldn't and that she would feel like she gave up too soon.
16:27: Cassie talks about how Jeanne knows the difference between the retreat center and being the Menopause Guru.
16:42: Cassie asks Jeanne if she wants to be her.
16:46: Jeanne admits she does.
16:50: Cassie asks Jeanne how come.
16:55: Jeanne admits that she knows that there are so many people who need what Jeanne is sharing and that what she is doing is important.
17:33: Cassie asks if Jeanne wants to be her.
17:42: Jeanne admits that she wants to be the Menopause Guru.
17:48: Cassie asks Jeanne how it feels to say that.
17:50: Jeanne admits it feels scary.
17:56: Cassie talks about how this is normal for Jeanne, how she is getting ready to send information to a TV station that could make her known worldwide, and how when Jeanne makes big moves forward, fear hits her.
18:50: Jeanne admits that it is a pattern for her.
18:51: Cassie talks about how the conversation started with Jeanne feeling stuck and how now can say that because Jeanne is feeling fear, she knows she is moving forward.
19:07: Jeanne agrees and discusses that she wants to run backward because of fear.
19:12: Cassie talks about how it is normal to want to stay in what is comfortable and that it is easy to see the signs that things aren’t moving forward because we are looking for reasons not to move forward.
19:37: Jeanne admits that is true.
19:42: Cassie asks Jeanne what she is going to do instead.
19:47: Jeanne admits she needs to double down.
19:50: Cassie asks Jeanne to elaborate on that.
19:51: Jeanne talks about getting what she needs to do to move forward and be the Menopause Guru.
20:35: Cassie talks about how the Menopause Guru enjoys her life, teaches women to live and enjoy their life, and asks Jeanne if she is the Menopause Guru on the weekends.
21:00: Jeanne admits that she is.
21:05: Cassie asks Jeanne what it means to be the Menopause Guru and what she will do to be her.
21:15: Jeanne talks about how the Menopause Guru is all about teaching and how she needs to be ready to help the people she wants to help.
22:03: Cassie asks what voice Jeanne needs to listen to.
22:05: Jeanne admits she needs to listen to the voice of what she needs.
22:09: Cassie asks if that is the voice of the Menopause Guru or her clients.
22:13: Jeanne admits that she needs to listen to both, but mainly she needs to listen to her clients' voices.
22:53: Jeanne talks about how she hears them when she listens, but it feels like it is taking a long time to get it right.
23:17: Cassie tells Jeanne she is super smart.
23:21: Jeanne admits that being smart doesn't mean she always knows how to talk to her future clients.
23:30: Cassie asks Jeanne how she is feeling now.
23:36: Jeanne admits that she feels better and knows that this is where she wants to be.
24:05: Cassie asks Jeanne if she wants to think about going out and getting a job.
24:10: Jeanne admits that she doesn't.
24:17: Jeanne talks about how she has noticed that she doesn't want to go back into IT and that she gets so much out of being the Menopause Guru.
25:27: Cassie thinks it's good to recognize the fear, look around to see if you want to go down the path and choose to do it even if there is fear.
25:43: Jeanne talks about how in the past, at this time of year, she would have been doing some extreme physical things and that, interestingly, she knows she can do things when she’s scared.
26:31: Cassie asks Jeanne about the difference between the fear of being an entrepreneur and the fear of going down a mountain that may be out of her comfort zone.
26:46: Jeanne talks about that when it comes to something skill-based if you fail, it is because you aren't skilled enough, but if she fails as the Menopause Guru, it is because she isn't good enough.
27:37: Cassie admits it makes sense but that it is a skill to be the Menopause Guru.
27:46: Jeanne admits that hearing that made her realize she is just working on skills, and if she fails to write a good email, it isn't a reflection of her ability to be the Menopause Guru.
28:14: Cassie talks about how it is different to talk to a client to get them in the door versus serving them as a client.
28:26: Cassie asks Jeanne if she is ready to own that she is moving forward.
28:31: Jeanne owns that she is moving forward.
28:34: Cassie asks Jeanne how that feels.
28:35: Jeanne owns that it feels scary but good.
28:41: Cassie asks Jeanne how else she would like to be supported today.
28:45: Jeanne says she has some emails for Cassie to read.
28:48: Cassie talks about how they coach for about 20 minutes and then go do the work in a coaching session.
29:03: Cassie asks if Jeanne has anything else she would like to share.
29:06: Jeanne talks about how this was a big step for her.
29:15: Cassie wants to talk about the retreat center and how that was how Jeanne thought she would find the people she wanted to help.
29:46: Jeanne admits that it was also a way to be in New Hampshire so she could be with her family and now sees that there are other ways to be there.
31:18: Cassie clarifies that she doesn't need the center to get what she wants.
31:24: Jeanne admits she can do retreats anywhere and with less hassle than owning a center.
31:32: Cassie talks about how Jeanne needed the experience of wanting the center to get to what she really wanted.
32:09: Cassie talks about how the retreat center was a how.
32:18: Jeanne admits it was a how and how scripting about having clients made her question if this was another how or if she was on the right path.
33:08: Cassie asks Jeanne if there are any final thoughts she would like to share.